Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to Spill the Tea unfiltered. Hey, guys.
So it was a kind of rough week.
[00:00:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:09] Speaker A: Yeah, we had to. We both had to go to a funeral. We did. And then I had another funeral I had to go to.
For those of you that remember Bri, her grandmother passed away.
So we went and supported Bri in her time.
So we are praying for her and her family and sending all the well wishes there.
But then I also had a friend die, and it was a co worker, somebody who I haven't seen in a while. But I had talked to her back in April. She. We talked a lot about travel because she knows I travel a lot and she was asking my opinion.
And she was booking a cruise for her anniversary with her husband, so we talked a lot about that.
And she passed away.
She was 38, almost 39.
I don't know that we still know exactly what happened other than they think it was a heart attack. Her husband came home and found her
[00:01:11] Speaker B: on the couch, so I couldn't imagine.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that kind of shocked everybody.
It's just. It's real sad when some. It's sad when anyone dies, but when older people die, it's expected, right?
When someone are your own age dies.
So now I'm like in this mental of. Like, I was talking to my therapist about it because I was just like, why am I trying to save money? Why am I worried about debt?
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Because what if you do live and then you can't retire and then you have to work for the rest of your life?
[00:01:44] Speaker A: But what if I die?
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Well, then I guess the money goes to the cats.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: I guess so. You.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: There you go. And whoever Inher. Like whoever inherits the cats.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: I'll take cats.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: We'll have all four.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: Addie is straight up on your clothes right now.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Of course she is.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: But.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah, on the black clothes, of course.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Well, at least she's black. Yeah, so that helps.
But. Yeah, so that. It was a really sad week with that, but there was a. A very big turnout.
She was FBI, so a lot of people were there that I worked with and everything, so.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Well, that's good to know. She was so loved.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it was good that a lot of people showed up and. And gave sex and everything, so.
But yeah, so that was kind of crazy.
And speaking of crazy, how about we talk about toxic moms today?
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
And I'm not saying my mom's perfect. She's neurotic as.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: But you don't talk about mom like that.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: I know, but my mom is a great mom, like, she really is. She's. She's a great mom. She's. She has her quirks, like, but she's never been a narcissist. She's never done anything, like, super crazy. I can tell. I can tell mom, like, shut up. And she will, like, she. She'll listen, and we can actually have a conversation. So it's not. It's not a narcissistic situation. So I'm. I'm very blessed.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: I've always had a really good relationship with my mom as well.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And we're definitely lucky, like, with. With that situation.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: However, there are some people who do not.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: There are definitely some people who are not.
And I'm going to read some messages if I can get the whole thing to pull.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Have you seen on TikTok where people are turning messages into, like, metal music?
[00:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: It's the funniest thing. I catch myself listening to every one of them. I love it.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah. It cracks me up.
Okay, so long story short, I have a friend, and her mom randomly texts me out of the blue.
So I'm thinking something's, like, wrong. Right. Right.
So she texts me and says, I know you've only heard one of the store one side of the story.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: And you're like. I'm like, weird.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: I know.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: She's already starting off.
[00:04:10] Speaker A: I'm like, I know nothing.
[00:04:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I don't actually know anything, lady.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: She says, can you please ask my friend to let her know how her grandchildren are? Because her heart is breaking.
So she sends this.
I don't know what's going on. I'm like, one side of what story?
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Like, what is even going on?
[00:04:33] Speaker A: What's the story? This is weird.
And I think she assumes that me and her daughter talk all the time, but we don't.
She's busy. I'm busy. It's one of those, like, when you have time or you're thinking about each other, you shoot each other a message. We see each other maybe once a quarter.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: And also, like, what if she's just private and doesn't want everybody to know?
[00:04:53] Speaker A: And that's what it was. She just didn't care enough to even tell anybody. My friend told no one.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: About the situation.
But her mom is such a narcissist that she thinks that she's the center of everybody's attention. And so she thinks that her daughter ran and was, like, talking about her, and she was. And my friend was like, no, I don't care enough to talk about you.
[00:05:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Basically, what happened? So I text My friend, I screenshot it, text it to her, and I'm like, are you okay? Because I'm like, I just want to make sure she's okay. Right?
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: And she was just like, oh, my God, I can't believe she messaged you.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: She already knew. So she wasn't. You were not the first is what I'm hearing.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: No, yeah, she.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: For her to already know, like, you were not the first. This woman has done dug into her French, like, her friends list and just started shooting messages.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: And her ex.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: And her.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: Not her ex husband, but her husband. She reached out to her husband, and her mom doesn't even like him.
So the fact that she. The fact that she reached out to him, I'm like, it's funny how, like,
[00:05:48] Speaker B: people like that, like, they don't even like you, you know, they're talking shit about you, but they want to be all buddy, buddy when you're around.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it was weird. So. But I was just like, what happened? And she's like, long story short, my friend is dealing with some custody shit with one of her kids. And so she had to get a bunch of shit together. And within two days, like, last minute, her attorney was like, I need all this. And she's like, oh, shit. Her mom called her and said, hey, you should talk to me or. And like. Or, hey, I want to talk to you or something. And, like, called, and she was like, I don't have time. Let me call you back when I have time.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Right?
[00:06:19] Speaker A: And her mom flipped her shit and said, when I. You will talk to me when I call. I'm your mother.
This woman is a grown. My friend is a grown adult, has her own kids, her own life, her own marriage behaviors, right?
So my friend hung up on her as one would. And then her mom continued to call her 20 plus times back to back.
And when you're trying to gather stuff for, like, yeah, you're using your phone,
[00:06:43] Speaker B: like, it's not an emergency, like, right, Mom, I've asked you if I can just call you back. I have a lot going on. My kids are my priority.
You should respect that.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: 100.
And most moms would, right?
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah. 100. My mom would be like, yeah, I get it. You're busy. Like, just call me when you got time.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Same. 100.
So she blocked her. So she blocks her mom. So that's when she starts reaching out. Yeah. So that's how she starts reaching out to other people. So I don't say anything. I say, what do you want me to do? She's like, Just ignore. So I do. I say nothing.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: Well, I know that more was said after that because I've seen the text thread. It's quite long over there.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it is.
I said nothing.
And 24 hours later, she texts me again.
She says, thanks, I'm not surprised.
And it's a. With a smiley emoji, like. And I'm like, not surprised. Like, in my head, I'm like, thanks. You're not surprised that I didn't respond? Like, why would I respond? You should have blocked her too, she says.
So she sends me this long text. So she sends me the text she sent to her daughter and says just so. Just to keep you in the loop so you get both sides. Listen to what she said to her daughter and makes. She's like thinking that it's going to make her, like, sound good. It makes her sound like a psycho. O get ready for this spicy.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: I'm ready.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: This is what she told her daughter.
I do not criticize you and say mean things, nor behave as you do.
At this point, I wouldn't call your therapy helpful.
Exclamation point.
You have failed to answer a text, phone call, or respond in any way.
We love you and we need you, but we need all of you. But you are not the only one with things going on in your life that are stressful and every. Everyone is busy. You make time, even a minute, to call or text and say, I love you, just thinking about you and wanted to see what's going on, as I have done multiple times over the past several weeks.
If you would respond to a text or answer a call, I wouldn't reach out to others to see how you are.
You are my daughter. You are married, so that makes him family. And those are my grandkids.
If you don't want anything to do with me or anyone else up here, that's on you. We love you and you are still our family, like it or not, in all caps.
It's not fair what you're doing to all the kids. That's who's suffering because of your behavior.
You can tell your friend and your husband thanks for the concern and answering my text because of the concern I have for a daughter who doesn't give a damn about her family.
I love you as does everyone else here. So apparently me and her husband didn't answer her.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: It's very dramatic.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Very. And she's sitting there bashing me and her husband for not responding to her.
On top of that, she's very aggressive. Like. Like it or not, your family, like I'm sorry, woman, but if you have toxic family, just because your blood does not mean you have to be in my life.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: And then, like where she calls out her being in therapy saying it's not working. Now her therapist is probably encouraging her to draw boundaries.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: Yes.
Yes. And apparently. And this woman doesn't understand boundaries.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah. No. Healthy boundaries are okay. And it seems like she does need to draw some healthy boundaries between her and her mother.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Yes. And her mom doesn't like that.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Her mother doesn't understand what boundaries is.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: No.
And so then I respond, because that pissed me off. I know it did.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: I know I did. Ms. Spicy, let's hear it.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: So I said, okay.
So I had no idea what was going on. I hadn't talked to your daughter in a couple of months.
What I am seeing there, though, is very toxic, especially you bringing me into something that literally has nothing to do with me and taking offense when I don't respond.
I said, your daughter posts on her socials. That's how I keep up with her. So I know that her kids are good. You could do the same. Also, just an FYI, therapy teaches people about boundaries. It looks like she set some and you aren't respecting them.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: Yep. So that's what I said.
She didn't like it.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: I'm sure she didn't. She didn't like it. Let's hear it.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: She says, I'm committed. Therapy teaches how to deal with situations that are difficult and turning your back on them and ignoring them isn't dealing. That's a bad therapist.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: Has she been to therapy?
[00:11:20] Speaker A: No. This woman's never been to therapy a day in her life.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: Because I promise you, mine would be like, emory, you need to draw some boundaries.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: 100 and I. So it's funny because I read all
[00:11:28] Speaker B: this, and it doesn't seem like she knows how to regulate her emotions. So she is not meant to therapy.
[00:11:32] Speaker A: No. And it's funny because I was like, I read all this to my therapist, and my therapist was like, what is she talking about? Boundaries are 100% make you a good therapist. Therapists should tell you to. To do boundaries.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: It's mentally exhausting dealing with a lot of people who just don't, at our age, know how to regulate their emotions.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: It is so mentally exhausting.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: And a lot of them, especially boomers, are so set in their ways that they're just like, well, this is just how it is. I'm like, you can change, like, be better.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: So she says. So then.
So she says that's a bad therapist. Right. She says she went to therapy. So this is when she says she went to therapy. My friend's dad was killed in a car wreck. So she says when her dad was in a car wreck, I had anxiety attacks meeting certain vehicles on the road. I would tear up and have anxiety issues. The therapist never once said, those vehicles are everywhere. Just set your boundaries not to drive on the road. And you're going to be. That you're going to be on. Nope. She said, let's work on how you can deal with that when you meet these vehicles.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: That's a different situation.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: 100 a different situation than dealing with a toxic family.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Right. Like, what do you even mean, lady?
[00:12:48] Speaker A: That's the thing is it doesn't even make sense. And the fact that she thinks it makes sense says a lot about her.
She said, nope. My therapist said, let's work on how you can deal with it when you meet these vehicles. So she says, well, we as her, my friend's family are not going away.
There's not a different road to take. We don't have a script on how to. How to say or not to say or how to act. We are who we are, exclamation point.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Which tells you she's not willing to change.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: No.
I reached out as a concerned mom kindly asking about and grandma kindly asking about them because I, I know she talks to you. No, she doesn't. Your daughter did not say to me because your daughter didn't give a.
About what you were doing.
And even if she did, I'm her friend.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: It also seems up you, like, you have a lot of pinned up emotions that you just poured on your daughter all at one time.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Rather than coming to her as an adult with regulated emotions and said, hey, this really bothers me like that we hadn't had time to talk lately. I'd really like to connect with you soon.
Maybe did school discuss some of the things that are bothering me, whatever. And then maybe she would have took that approach a little bit different. But it was very immature to write her friends to write that nasty message with all caps like, that does not show maturity.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: No, not at all.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: I don't know why you thought that using that tone and that message would get you somewhere. Because if you had received that message, you were the receiver on the other end of that. You would have the same response. It wouldn't be like, oh, okay, like, let's get. No, no, we're not people pleasing. And I don't want her.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: Two people, please. Nope. Yeah. 100. And I was just like, the fact that she just assumes her daughter and I, like, talk 24. 7. I'm like, again, we see each other maybe once a quarter.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: Right.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: We'll randomly text, but it might be, like, once a month. Like, it is not. It's not. Me and you. Me and you talk all day, every day.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: But also, you owe the mother nothing.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Correct. Because I'm her friend, not the mother.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: You're her friend. Like, if you wanted to hear the mother's story, then you would have wrote the mother.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: But for her to involve you and God knows who else she has involved.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: Was disrespectful and crossed boundaries with her daughter.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: 100%.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: I would be more offended over that than the actual message because why are you messaging my friends, letting them know my personal business?
[00:15:19] Speaker A: She was. My friend was like, I'm embarrassed.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I'd be so embarrassed.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And I was like, well, don't be embarrassed on my account. Like, you know, I don't. I don't care. But she's like, she has always struggled with her mom because her mom is a narcissist, and so she's always struggled to put her mom in her place.
So I did it for her.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Good. Good on you.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Anyway, so she reached. So she continued. She says, I don't know how to use Facebook, and. But I'm quite certain you don't count on your mom to keep up with you. That way she cares enough about. About you to find out about you. Also, we have mutual friends. I spend a lot of time in Asheville.
My mom does not know this woman because I called my mom and read that to her. My mom was like, what? First of all, yes, my mom does keep up with me on social medias because she comes to Spill the tease page all the time and likes all her stuff.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: She does. And she now likes all my stuff.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah, she likes all your stuff. She likes my stuff. She actually does use Facebook and likes
[00:16:11] Speaker B: stuff, but sends me messages.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Yep. But also, I just talk to my mom every day, so that's just not an issue.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: I talk to my mom, like, once a week, but we don't have this weird, like, relationship, y' all going on. Because she knows I'm busy. She knows, like, we're gonna talk, we're gonna get caught up, but, like, we both have busy lives. It's understandable. And, like, we're not gonna hold each other to some unrealistic expectations.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: And I literally call my mom while
[00:16:37] Speaker B: I'm driving or put pressure on it.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Like, because I'm like, I don't have time any other time. Right? Like, I'm in the car. Let me call you. Because I have time and. But when I get home, shit's gonna. I have stuff to do, so. Yeah, but it was weird that she brought up, like, we have mutual friends, and I spend a lot of time in Asheville. She's never met my mom, and my mom. My mom's like, what? Mutual friends, like, what?
[00:17:00] Speaker B: The whole situation's getting real weird.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah. She said the reason I sent you the text I responded with is because my daughter said you told her. I reached out to you. You told me in. If you go back to the first message, it says, will you reach out to my daughter and let me know how my. My grandkids are?
So she told me to reach out to her. Now she's upset that I reach out to her.
She says, I am not, in all caps, being toxic and dragging you into anything.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: You messaged me. I didn't message you. I didn't come for this.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Right. I was like, you literally are, but okay. She said, I simply wanted you to. To tell me kindly if they were okay. I can clearly see what a mistake that was without using Facebook or any other social media platform or seeking a therapist to find the boundary that I so stupidly crossed in thinking you might be kind enough to respond with just a simple, everything is good, things are much clearer now. Thank you, with a smiley face. So she's super passive aggressive.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: She's getting on me with, like, the boundaries, and.
And I'm like, yeah, you cross lines and you cross boundaries, and you're 100 being toxic right now. What do you mean? You're being passive aggressive.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: The wrong friend.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: Correct. And that's the thing that my friend said. She was like, I'm scared of you.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Right. Why the hell? All the friends that she went down the list on, right? That was the one she chose.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: She was like, that was the. That was the wrong one. And I was like, yeah, that was weird. Like, I was shocked that she picked me.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you should have. You should have listened to our podcast
[00:18:33] Speaker A: for a minute first, literally. And then she, like, sends, like, these huge messages, right? All my responses are tiny because, like. Because I'm like, what? You're wasting too much.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: You're performer. And, you know, I leave people on red on a daily, so I don't respond to nobody.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, okay. She said. So I responded to that. I said, she doesn't talk to me about your toxic behavior unless I ask, which is what I did when you texted me. We are busy. We go months without talking and then pick up where we left off. When we do, I talk to my mom daily because she's not a narcissist. Smiley face.
So, like, if you're going to be. If you are going to be a petty, I will. You go low. I'm going to go lower. Like, I can't. When people say, like, don't stoop to their level. Here's my issue with that.
People. There are people out there who need to be taught a lesson. Dick needed to be taught a lesson, and he learned his lesson so much that he had to move out of the state.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: I fully believe in humbling somebody.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: 100 people need to be held accountable.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: Look, at one time, I needed to be humbled.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: I was humbled. I no longer think I can fight. I got my ass whipped by a man. Okay.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: I don't. Yeah, she's like, I'm good. I'm good.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: I look, but I don't wanna. I don't wanna fight no more.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: It's like. It's just one of those things where I'm like, if we don't hold these idiots accountable or, like, stand up to them, then they think they can continue to act this way.
Absolutely. The not So I say that, and she says, so she's so stupid that she thinks I called her daughter a narcissist.
So she goes, thank you. I've never heard her called a narcissist with a laughy face. It literally my sentence said, I talk to my mom daily because she's not a narcissist.
And then she goes, thank you. I've never heard her called a narcissist with a laughing face like, I was talking about her daughter.
Then she says, I will know not to count on you ever again, as have many others with a heart.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: I don't understand that well.
[00:20:29] Speaker A: So I'm sitting there like, she's my friend's mom, right? Who does not know anyone else in my life.
So how does she know that other people can't count on me?
[00:20:39] Speaker B: I can count on you.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: Literally. If you're my friend, you can count on me. If you're not my friend, you probably can't.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: You drove to my house all last a couple weeks ago. Just take care of my cats every day.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, and I will again.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: They loved it.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Like, they're. They're angel babies.
It's super weird. They. That was just a really.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Because not you saying, no, I'm calling you A narcissist?
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: That. That right there, that's so.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: Yes. That's all.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: Like, that's it for me because. No, no, you're the narcissist.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So I straight up told her. I was like, well, obviously I gotta spell this out for this woman, right? So I said, I'm calling you a narcissist. I'm not yours to count on. I'm her friend. And again, she said she had said nothing to me.
You made me reach out to her and find out what happened. You calling her non stop and not accepting that she will call you when she has time is literal psycho behavior.
Thanks for giving me something to talk about on my podcast.
Next episode will be about toxic mothers since I don't know what that is. Like, you and your passive aggressive can go somewhere else. I am not the one.
And she laughed at the message, but didn't respond because she was like, oh, she's gonna talk about me on her podcast.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: So here it is.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: So here it is. Ma', am, don't message your daughter's friends unless there's an emergency. I have another friend whose mom messaged me because she couldn't get a hold of her daughter and she thought something was wrong. That's 100. Acceptable. That is acceptable. Do not message me. If your daughter blocked you because you called her 20 plus times because you're a psycho.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: No, that's. That is literally crazy.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Therapy is 100 about boundaries. And if your therapist didn't tell you that, then you had a bad therapist.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Ma'.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Am, Also worry. Having anxiety about cars because your husband died in a car wreck is not the same thing.
It's not the same. And you comparing the things and then throwing something that awful at my friend is disgusting. She's always done, like, super narcissistic, and I've just ignored it because she's, you know, my friend. I'm gonna be there for my friend. You know, you can't. You can't pick your moms, but you sure can put boundaries on them. And her mom doesn't like that. And it's. She was insulting me, insulting my own mother. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Not today. Not today.
So thanks for showing us what a narcissistic mom is so that we can let people know on here. So if your mother behaves that way, you have a narcissist as a mother and you should probably set some boundaries.
Maybe even cut her off, because that's psychotic behavior.
Yeah. So that's today's episode. There's some crazy moms out there, guys. And if you have one, I'm sorry. And you're not the only one. And definitely go to therapy about it and set boundaries because you don't need that kind of in your life. Needless to say, now that I've read this, I'm going to block her so that she can never reach out to me again.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: You absolutely should.
[00:23:47] Speaker A: I didn't want to block boundaries. Yeah, I didn't want to block her until I read them. But now that that's the case, I will block her.
And that is our episode for the week. So thank you for giving me the story, ma'. Am. I greatly appreciate it.
And we will see you guys next week. Bye, guys.
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